Corruption in Georgia

When Barack Obama gets re-elected and the media asks how and why it happened we can look to corrupt GOP leaders who shut out their own people.

Take a look at the action in Athens – Clarke County, Georgia.

This report from Gary Warenfelt

On Saturday March 10th, in Athens, GA, the democratic process was trampled on. The Athens-Clarke county GOP met to hold their annual county convention. The convention was held to nominate, approve, and pass slates of delegates to the party’s district and state conventions. County chairman Matt Brewster and nominating committee chairman John Elliot blatantly broke the rules of their own party when they improperly, and without a majority, passed delegate slates and adjourned the convention amidst cries for “division”, which is a call for a standing head count. With that, many sitting precinct delegates were disenfranchised, and the convention was improperly closed. When warned that their conduct was jeopardizing the status of the delegates and alternates for the entire county, the chair Matt Brewster directed all questions to John Padgett, who is the Secretary of the Georgia State Republican Party. Unfortunately, Mr. Padgett refused to answer questions and fled the scene along with the rest of the local GOP leadership.

Apparently, this is not the first time that the Georgia GOP has alienated Ron Paul supporters. In a March 2011 speech given by Sue Everhart, Chairwoman of the Georgia State GOP, she apologizes to Ron Paul supporters for “shoddy treatment” in 2008. She also admits that pressure from an outside source was the reason that Ron Paul supporters were mistreated. During the same speech, Everhart holds up a copy of the Georgia Republican Party Rules, vowing that such treatment will not happen in the future.

Many of the precinct delegates, who were elected in February at the county’s mass precinct meetings, were new to the process and were appalled by the conduct they witnessed. Delegate Gary J. Warenfelt of 5C said, “This is the first time I have ever been actively involved in politics and to see illegal actions taking place in a major U.S. political party is very saddening. They cherry-picked the delegates that they wanted to go to the district and state conventions without following party rules. They did not listen to any voice of opposition and ended the meeting illegally.” Fellow delegate Shawn Lewis added, “I personally called for a count of the votes of the ayes versus the nays, and was refused. I was told that the convention was closed, and watched as everyone just up and fled from the scene. I was ignored by the state GOP secretary after we were told that he would answer questions. I’m thoroughly disgusted; this is my first time participating in the process, and I feel violated.”

 

Meanwhile, Mike Montesano sends in this interesting link about a different Athens and a different time.

150 Responses to Corruption in Georgia

  1. Are we gonna be able to do anything about this or are we gonna continue to be walked on? This is awful and I know no one will care, it will be ignored by all except for Ron Paul supporters. Straight awful.

  2. Duncan Bates says:

    This makes me sick and angry.

  3. tex2 says:

    Wow. Barry will be elected because a 5% Republican candidate was mistreated in a single Georgia county to merely continue a discussion, and they even apologized already!

    • Yeah he will be re-elected cause we aren’t foolish enough to fall for the same old Wall Street backed establishment big-government puppets. We will not vote for Romney or Santorum, it makes no sense to vote for the same or worse. And we would be much better than 5% if it wasn’t for the way we are treated and the lies and the misguided sheep because of it! Our numbers are much better than they make you believe and this is a great example of why. So yes, Obombya will be re-elected because you will not have our vote.

      • tex2 says:

        So you speak for ALL RP supporters? LOL

        Suit yourself if you don’t vote for the winning nomination from RP’s party, and would rather sulk off in the corner. I expect a loser like RP followers would be that stupid. Good riddance.

    • Mitt Romney’s top contributor is Goldman Sach’s and here is a list of Goldman Sach’s people in Obama’s administration. No way could we ever vote for him, we are smarter than that. http://my.firedoglake.com/fflambeau/2010/04/27/a-list-of-goldman-sachs-people-in-the-obama-government-names-attached-to-the-giant-squids-tentacles/

      • Nicky Nelson says:

        Tex knows all this. He just spends his days sitting on the couch peeing his pants over boogiemen terrorists and watching the idiot box, and wasting freedom fighters’ time. He is a troll with NO patriotic bone in his body. Just ignore him and he will go away after a few more attempts to lure you in anyway. lol

      • tex2 says:

        Nicky,

        The only times I pee in my pants is when I read the insanely stupid posts on this blog! LOL

      • tex2 says:

        Oops! Time to clean up again. LOL

      • hink says:

        also,interesting to find out that the crown family backs romneys campaign, while also backing obama–google. Only an idiot will vote for either of them.
        What many are failing to realize is that Paul has tons of support, evident by all the exposed fraud incidents, and suppressing Paul will be political suicide for GOP. Paul supporters will not vote for a neocon, unlike some posters here.
        Why would anyone that doesnt support RP be on Doug Weads blog anyways?

      • tex2 says:

        Drives you crazy not knowing why I’m here, doesn’t it? LOL

    • Amanda says:

      the apology noted was for corruption in the ’08 campaign, not this instance. and it’s not a single county – similar actions occurred at my county’s convention, too. and Barry will be reelected because the GOP and the MSM are shutting our Ron Paul across the country. “pressure from an outside source” mhmmm

      • tex2 says:

        Do you have any proof this happened in your county, or are you simply complaining so we think it is happening in every county, burough, and parish in the country? LOL

      • KateSmith says:

        I went to my District 9 convention in FL last Saturday and the GOP chairs voted for themselves. We were to vote for 2 delegates and 2 alternates, they voted for themselves for 3 positions and the other alternate they picked a lady that was an insider, they all knew her. I’m with every other Ron Paul supporter, I will only vote for Dr. Paul, I will write him in. First of all, Romney, Santorum and Gingrich will never beat Obomber. Without Ron Paul support, Obama will win, all you Neocon’s deserve it.

      • tex2 says:

        Go for it. RP specializes in being ineffective, so you’re following his lead perfectly! LOL

    • This video only solidifies my No One But Paul vote. This party gets dirtier every day.

    • Sheepwhisperer says:

      So many flawed assumptions in such a short post…

      1- 5% is the % in the south for RP, more like 15-20% is the average for RP in the primaries.

      2- That % is the % AFTER voter fraud and shenanigans in the count:
      https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByJAC-sfXwumZzI2bVlON2VTMnFyYVZZSnpDYnNyQQ/edit?pli=1

      https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByJAC-sfXwumdkE4d0Y2eWtURTZ2eDM5RmlLc3ZhQQ/edit?pli=1

      -IO and NH results basically killed RP’s momentum and setup plausible deniability for the rest of the freauds in other states.

      4- More blatant violations of Roberts Rules in GA:

      Given the blatant fraud in the count, it is no wonder RP has more delegates then the GOP dinosaurs expected (or perhaps they knew and are just making sure to break their own rules to deny them a voice)

      3- Barry WILL be re-elected, on that you are correct and it will be because the GOP wanted it that way. Do you think the dems don’t see what’s going on and won’t use it to discredit the dying party which is the GOP LOL?

      4- Double digit loss to the dems in November will just make it easier for the dinosaur GOP establishment to be replaced by the new blood inspired by Ron Paul. You’re on your last legs old man and what you’re seeing is you and your ilk twisting and turning at the thought of losing power, which will happen shortly.

      See ya😄

      • tex2 says:

        1. Acccording to this source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012 RP got about 11% of the popular vote so far, far less than 15-20%. However, we all know what really counts are the delegate counts, he has about 4% of that. So I stand corrected, RP is a 4% candidate. LOL

        2. I couldn’t get the links to work, it may be my connection. Regardless, it isn’t worth my time. LOL

        4. Ditto. LOL

        3. Barry hasn’t been reelected yet, no thanks to the cry baby RP sycophants. If the other Republican candidate supporters behaved the same childish way, Barry would be guaranteed to win. Grow up or continue to be a bunch of IDIOTS! LOL

        4. Ditto. I agree the GOP needs some changes, but NOT the kind RP brings to the table. LOL

      • tex2 says:

        I was able to look at #2. What you’re “forgetting” is the votes that come in early are from smaller, less populated areas, and the larger towns and cities take longer to count and come in later. These are also the areas more influenced by advertising, and I’ve seen Santorum lose several states because of this FACT. There is nothing wrong with the vote, you RP folks should go back and figure out the 9/11 conspiracy and then come back with your election conspiracy theory! LOL

        Also was able to see #4, and it isn’t nearly as bad looking as the other one, it looks more like the youngsters don’t know the rules. Too bad, so sad. Grow up. LOL

      • Lui says:

        tex2 Did you really just use wikipedia as a resource? LMFAO

        I think you just shot your credibility in the foot!

        If you had done a little more you research (wikipedia does NOT count by the way because information is not reliable, read the fine print!), you might find that none of the other candidates can swing the independent vote and that will cost any other GOP candidate the election against Barry. This is key and if you want him out, you better think with the end in mind.

      • tex2 says:

        Yes, I did use wiki as a source, and you should have done some homework before you made your STUPID comment: http://www.theawl.com/2011/05/wikipedia-and-the-death-of-the-expert

        But you didn’t hurt your credibility because you don’t have any. LOL

        The independents aren’t happy with Barry, all we need is a true Reagan-like conservative with a good conservative message, which leaves fruitcake RP out of the mix. LOL

    • Lui says:

      Wrong! Barry will be elected because the republican party ignored the 20% it needed to beat the democrats. And who needs apologies? They apologized last year and what good was that worth? You should know that this has been going on around the country since IOWA! Shame on you for being so short sighted! Our country is under attack and you defend the people who are oppressing other voters simply because you don’t share the same exact view. Ignorance is not bliss my friend, it’s poverty and it’s tyranny.

      Libertarian Texans will stand by our very own Congressman Ron Paul. The corrupt fear us, the honest support us and the heroic join us.

      • tex2 says:

        Barry was elected because the GOP was in a long war, the economy was tanking, the press was in lust for Barry, and we had a moderate.

        You need to provide more proof than a single county before you make the claim it has been happening across the country. Shame on you for being so stupid. LOL

        Ignorance is thinking we can guard our physical borders and be safe. It’s stupid and it is dangerous. LOL

        If RP is libertarian, he should run as the Libertarian candidate. Either way, he will LOSE. LOL

      • Lui says:

        Do your own research chump. I’m not doing it for you.

        What kind retard quotes wikipedia? Oh that would be you.

        LOL

      • tex2 says:

        I don’t need to prove a negative, IDIOT. LOL That’s like saying you are from Mars, now prove me wrong. LOL

        Like a told another stupid RP sycophant, wiki is as accurate as most other sources, and you could have easily verified the wiki numbers with other sources, and proven me wrong if you actually found any! LOL

    • @ Tex – The apology & promise to NEVER repeat the screwing over of Dr., Paul’s followers was for an incident “LAST” year. We can see that Mrs. Everhart is a Woman of her word as this just happened a few days ago.

      As to Dr. Paul being a 5% candidate you might want to look at the NATIONAL Rasmussen Poll showing Dr. Paul in a statistical dead heat with Obummer.

      • tex2 says:

        I didn’t see Mrs. Everhart in this year’s meeting, did you?

        I corrected the 5% comment. It’s really 4%. LOL

        RP would be buried by Barry after he spent hundreds of millions of dollars pointing out RP’s stupid positions, so that poll is meaningless. LOL

    • Sheepwhisperer says:

      1- You’re totally wrong about delegates. RP is 4th in BOUND delegates but probably 2nd in unbound ones behind Romney. He’s set to have the most unbound delegates in IO, NV, MN, Me, AK and will exceed expectations in many other caucuses and primaries.

      2- The order that the votes are counted is IRRELEVANT and was explained in the documents, guess you didn’t bother even reading it. BTW, statisticians are looking into more data than that and other reports will follow. Even GOP bootlickers like you won’t be able to deny it or will just look even more stupid if you persist on denying the obvious and proven.

      3- Barry will be re-elected like I said and the dems know EXACTLY what’s going on you idiots. you’re just sinking your own ship which will actually help revitalize the political discourse in this country.

      4- About the video, again, you didn’t read the description or you didn’t even understand what was going on. Obvious violations to Roberts Rules which the chairman ADMITS in the video. LOL

      All you do is bring up strawman arguments that have nothing to do with the subject at hand, you better get informed on RPs platform because that’s what’s ahead for the new GOP, you suckers just don’t realize it yet😄

      • tex2 says:

        1. How can I be totally wrong when you agreed with me about the bound delegates? I haven’t seen a SINGLE source about RP leading the unbound ones, can YOU provide a source to back up your stupid statement? LOL

        2. I read it, and maintain my position, as I’ve been watching the state elections and how the analysts’ predictions have come true based on where the votes are coming from. The documents didn’t address this real-world FACT, but since when does RP and his sycophants care about reality? LOL

        3. It’s too long before the election to make a prediction about the result, but RP worshippers don’t understand reality! LOL

        4. The chairman in the second video didn’t admit to violations, he only explained the rules.

        All you do is bring up unsupported and erroneous statements that have nothing to do with RP’s decades long weak results. You better get better informed on RP’s dangerous foreign policy and other positions and WAKE UP!!! LOL

      • Freedom says:

        Get your ass out of here troll you been on this page all day get a life you will not change our views and you have to be a pathetic minion DIS info troll cause you can’t really be this stupid going against the only man who makes any sense and isn’t on the side of big government and wall street. You make me sick but I know that if you really are this stupid that you will look back after our dollar collapse and realize Ron Paul was right all along wish we had listened to him.

      • freedom says:

        It’s funny to see you think you are amounting anything here, your time must not be of any value cause you sure are wasting it. You can not possibly effect any of us, we will not waiver, we will continue to grow. It’s amazing to see something as stupid and awful as you are, you are sickening. I am embarrassed for you cause you are supposed to be an American. I tried blocking the emails from this page but your nonsense will not stop. Give it up, get a life, I know you hate America and freedom but it is obvious we cannot help you. You are hopeless. Go beat your dog or something, take your hatred elsewhere you are disgusting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=82wfE8xuQ5U#!

      • tex2 says:

        I thought Paulites believed in free speech? LOL

      • tex2 says:

        It’s funny to see that you think that you can think. LOL

    • The sooner you face reality, the better your chances of thwarting 0bama.
      As a Registered Republican for 13 years, I will write in Ron Paul, no matter what illegal & unethical stunts the ‘Party Thugs’ try to pull. The Republicans WILL lose in November against 0bama with the 30%+ Ron Paul votes voting for Ron Paul PERIOD!!. You can either get on board or suffer 0bama 4 more years, your choice, Choose wisely.

      • tex2 says:

        Ron Paul doesn’t attract 30%+, it’s about 11% LOL

        And if you don’t want to get onboard, so be it. Ron Paul has always been a loser, so go ahead and join him. LOL

    • Sheepwhisperer says:

      1- Search for the sources lil nugget, it’s all over the net from conventions that happened on Saturday in many states (IO, NV, GA) and many more which will happen in the coming weeks. I know you only consider hacks at FOX as source but I assure you RP’s will be second for unbound delegates. Not even taking into consideration the “sleeper” ones LOL which I’m one of them. I’m a delegate for Santorum.

      Make sure you check in here the day of the convention so I can laugh at you when I abstain in the first round and vote RP in the second😄

      2- You maintain your position because YOU DIDN’T READ THE DOCUMENTS or are just plain dumb since there’s analysis within the same precinct so your argument is IRRELEVANT… LOL

      3- OH no it’s not too early at all to make predictions lil GOP sycophant. It’s RP or 4 more years and by double digits! LMAO

      And you can’t do anything about it. You can try gaming the election now and brake your own rules but not against the Dem establishment and all that you lil dumarses are doing is giving them more ammunition. GJ!

      4- They admitted to irregularities Einstein, it’s on camera. You deaf?

      http://www.examiner.com/buzz-in-atlanta/fulton-county-gop-convention-chairman-admits-procedural-irregularity

      “dangerous foreign policy” Hahaha

      That’s all you have as catch phrase. the foreign policies of Brazil, Russia, China, Switzerland and countless other countries must be extremely dangerous in your imaginary chickenhawk world.

      Master chickenhawk Gingrich has even conceded on some of RP’s foreign policy points. Granted, he says anything to pander to voters depending on which way the wind’s blowing without intending to do what he says but the point is that the writing’s on the wall and only pea brains chickenhawks like you are still into the whole fear mongering thing.

      Pathetic lil man, truly pathetic. i pity you… but you also make me laugh😄

      • tex2 says:

        1. Dream on. If you can’t provide at least one source for your position, I consider it BS. You can be sure I’ll be here the day of the convention. LOL

        2. I read it, and conclude you’re STUPID. LOL

        3. You can predict all you want, but it’s a FACT RP has run for president several times before and he went NOWHERE!!! LOL

        4. I attended a precinct level plank meeting in 2008 and found the RP representative to be totally obnoxious as he tried to submit unending input. Finally, we all got tired of him and closed the discussion. Being part of the process is one thing, trying to take over is quite another. Hopefully this is the last time we will have to put up with RP’s antics. Just face facts, most of us don’t like RP’s dangerous ideas, and it has NOTHING to do with Fox. LOL

      • Freedom says:

        Youtube Syria girl and see who has the dangerous ideas. You are far from reality boy and the sooner people like you snap out of it the sooner we get our country back. “lol” fool

  4. There has not been one clean caucus or primary throughout this whole primary campaign cycle. Why would they start here. Disgusting!

  5. David Robertson says:

    These people do not represent rank and file Republicans. Most of the latter would support Ron Paul if they were given unbiased information about him. He is the only true republican in the field. Indeed he is the only genuine American, faithful to the ideals that made America a great nation. The rest, including Obama, are loyal only to their own interests and those of the ruling elites in Washington drawn from the world of the banking and corporate cartels who control them.

    I refuse to believe that the majority of Americans would support the election fraud that has been so blatant during these Republican primaries.

    On the contrary I believe that when it is clearly demonstrated that the election is being stolen by the Romney operatives within the GOP then there will be a surge of outrage that has not been see in America in her entire history.

    These primaries are not over by a long shot and this kind of action on the part of the GOP insiders, the minority neo-conservative tendency, will serve only to promote the candidacy of Ron Paul whose public record is one of impeccable integrity and honesty. As Doug Wead himself has said, Dr. Paul is a clean boat in a sea of garbage.

  6. Linda Tidrick says:

    Are you getting lawyers or prosecutors involved in the election fraud corruption? “We the People” have rights too and not just the GOP. We shouldn’t wait until the convention. Something needs to be done now. The “Corruption in Georgia” video should be enough to prosecute the officials. GOP doesn’t own this country.
    Thank you so much!

  7. Dave Infinger says:

    We live in times of moral decay. Honesty is no longer a virtue and those who are responsible for the fall of this great Country have no idea of what they have put in place for their children.

    We will become a third World Country and those of us who love liberty will suffer with those who have destroyed this once great Republic.

    Great Blog Doug, keep up the awesome work that you are doing for our Country. We have no choice but to keep fight because there can be no retreat.

    These people in the GOP are evil men and women who desire to plunder the people of America. That is why they have made the decisions they have made.

  8. Dave Infinger says:

    We live in times of moral decay. Honesty is no longer a virtue and those who are responsible for the fall of this great Country have no idea of what they have put in place for their children.

    We will become a third World Country and those of us who love liberty will suffer with those who have destroyed this once great Republic.

    Great Blog Doug, keep up the awesome work that you are doing for our Country. We have no choice but to keep fighting because there can be no retreat.

    These people in the GOP are evil men and women who desire to plunder the people of America. That is why they have made the decisions they have made.

    • tex2 says:

      Get a grip, Dave. LOL LOL

      • The only way to the White House for the GOP is through Ron Paul’s supporters. Our votes are for our country & not transferable to abortion-funding, pay-to-players like Santorum, Freddie mac lobbyists like Gingrich & abortion flip-flopping, big Spending Goldman Sachs Liberal Romnbama
        Voting for the lesser of evils is condoning EVIL. We wouldn’t bow to England in 1776 & we aren’t bowing to a corrupt GOP.

      • tex2 says:

        Then bow out. We don’t need or want you, with that attitude. LOL

  9. mike says:

    get out the fried chicken and watermellon cause obama will stay thanks to corrupt georgia gopers .who the hell wants more of the same old bush crap .

  10. Rodney says:

    Absolutely prosecute them and hold a separate convention, seat the delegates get a little violent etc.

    But realize that what’s done is done, they truly DO want Obama re-elected and are dyed in the wool democrats. Obama is what they’re gunning for. Everyone has no doubt of that.

  11. William Martin says:

    I just reported this to the FBI web site. Not sure if that was the right move, but I did it. This is what I sent.
    I would like to bring some election ballot fraud to the attention of the Athens, Georgia FBI office. I seen this via an internet video. The issue may have already been brought to their attention, but I cannot just assume it is being looked in to.
    This is a link to the article along with a video shot that shows very compelling evidence of fraud.

    https://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/corruption-in-georgia/

  12. TrueConservative says:

    I applaud the GOP from keeping the fringe Paul people from disenfranchising the good people of Georgia. Screw party rules, these people are crazy.

    • Dave Infinger says:

      This freedom thing is not really for this Country. I guess we should believe that the GOP is not required to follow Roberts Rules of Order. Yes, Chaos is a better way to fight back against these so called freedom loving people who are Ron Paul supporters.

      Anything goes, just so we can continue to allow our leaders to legally plunder this Country. Freedom is something that has been outdated for the past 50 years so why should we think that we deserve to be free now. It is high time the American People realize they are not free and do not deserve to be fee.

      Yes, Mr. True Conservative, you’re correct in your analysis, the American people have no right to think for one second that our elections are fair and honest. We live in tyranny, so we should just sit down and shut up and be more like you.

      Illegal wars, dead mothers and children are just going to have to get over the fact that our leaders know what is good for us.

      I am sure that you are more informed than most of the people on this site because you probably watch more TV than most of us.

    • tex2 says:

      We don’t need to break the rules, just expose them for the idiots they are!!! LOL

  13. Adan Rodriguez says:

    Election Fraud. Final confirmation sign of a tyrranical state.

  14. Nate says:

    Are their actions not treasonous?
    Is treason still illegal?
    Is the penalty for treason death?
    Isn’t anybody going to try these traitors for treason so the rest of the scum bags can see what will happen to them if they continue their treasonous acts?
    Hang them up on the steps of the white house.

  15. Sara says:

    Almost the same thing happened to us – Ron Paul Supporters and listed Delegates – on March 11, 2012 in Fulton County (Atlanta). The GOP Chair tried to confuse us with these forms, saying who we wanted to replace as a delegate, and we didn’t have a chance to look at the list, and they basically just put through their own list of delegates, even though those people were not present and had not attended the Mass Meeting on Feb, 18th. They made this new rule without the body voting on it. They had people vote who were not delegates, and we were outnumbered. All the while the Chairman said, “This will be a fair process”. They were expecting the Ron Paul Supporters, and planned to sabotage us like they did. We all paid $400 to attend the “convention” Some of the people were low-income students, who came up with the stupid $40. My husband and I actually paid $120 to have our kids in a Saturday daycare facility, plus our $80 to get in. We felt so cheated in so many ways. But, our ban of Atlanta Ron Paul Supporters will fight back and take over the local GOP group by voting ourselves into positions. I have been a huge Ron Paul supporter since 2006, and I am not backing down now!

  16. Corruption, and lack of guilt among GOP party bosses. Where is justice when lawbreakers walk free? How are our rights ensured in a culture of guiltless lawbreaking?

    Terrible behavior by the Georgia GOP. They should all be tried in the court of public opinion and shamed with the light of publicity. And whoever sees this act of corruption by the Georgia party bosses should pass it on far and wide.

    • tex2 says:

      I agree. There is no reason for this behavior to occur. But you’re going to have to go to the courts to get a real answer, public opinion and shame won’t cut it.

    • Patriot0ne says:

      It is time to run for every public office. The liars and thieves fill every government position. They are the employees that say “I’m just doing my job”. They are a mirror of Tex2.
      When the CODE ENFORCER threatens you for not purchasing permission to repair your own roof, claiming he is “just doing his job”, you are really being informed that you do not own the roof.
      This is the truth, this is slavery. This is what the People have been tricked into believing, that ‘government makes rules and points guns to enforce the rules to protect the People from liars and thieves’.
      Good People raise their children to be honest and respectful, they teach them how to watch out for and fend off liars and thieves, hoping they do not become liars and thieves like Tex2 the local GOP and lawyers/judges…

      • tex2 says:

        Go for it. But you are in total error about me. Are you against ALL government? Do you realize LOCAL government has an interest to ensure quality work is done to preserve home valuations? LOL

  17. Patrick Freeman says:

    Someone should have called a motion to replace the chairman on the grounds that he was out of order and in violation of GOP rules for Delegate Selection. After someone seconds your motion you could vote on removing said person. Once you nominate a new chairman and he/she takes the gavel and calls the room to order the process of delegates selection could proceed anew.

    If the state GOP won’t add your delegates then have them just show up at the State convention along with your video proof that according the the GOP’s written rules, they are the true delegates. In fact, I’d recommend you gather in the same room tomorrow (or asap) and hold your own nominating convention. Video record it, invite the press, have a notary on hand to certify any signed documents, etc, etc.

    Your Delegates should show up to State with a mountain of evidence proving that they are the *true* Delegates of that County according to GOP Regulations. Bring copies of the GOP rules, highlighting the rules that were broken. If you have any attorneys or Law Enforcement Officers among your ranks have them present at State as well to help argue your case. Make sure the media is present! Shame the GOP into honesty (to the extent possible). They rely on our ignorance and fear. TAKE The Convention!

    It is critical that all Ron Paul Delegates and aspiring delegates are well versed in Robert’s Rules of Order and that they know how to replace a corrupt chairman who refuses to follow the rules. Get together with your fellow RP supporters ahead of the convention and practice various scenarios so you’re ready for anything. Record and document EVERYTHING!

    Someone (“joeinmo”) on DailyPaul posted the following which explains these points much better than I did:

    “Division was called before any other motion, so division is currently the question on the floor, no other motions can be made, including to close the convention. As we sit here and blog, the Athens Clark County GOP convention is still running, regardless if anyone is there or not. While there can be no business done until a quorum returns (should be just a simple majority) it’s is still running right this minute. Go back to the location, it looks like if you get the same Paul supporters that were there, you will haveca quorum, finish the convention, elect delegates and submit those delegates as the correct slate then properly close the convention.

    According to Roberts Rules of Order, a Convention has a life of it’s own, it is still alive according to the rules and can be restarted if not properly closed, which it wasn’t.

    Read the rules, re-start it, follow the original agenda, elect a convention chair etc, elect a delegate slate, video tape it all, and send it to the State credentials committee for the State Convention and try and get seated as the correct delegation.

    A call for “Division” has to be addressed, the Convention CANNOT end when there is a call for division on the floor, there need not be a second.

    25. Division of the Assembly, and other Motions relating to Voting. A Division of the Assembly1 may be called for, without obtaining the floor, at any time after the question has been put, even after the vote has been announced and another has the floor, provided the vote was taken viva voce, or by show of hands, and it is called for before another motion has been made. This call, or motion, is made by saying, “I call for a division,” or “I doubt the vote,” or simply by calling out, “Division.” It does not require a second, and cannot be debated, or amended, or have any other subsidiary motion applied to it. As soon as a division is called for, the chair proceeds again to take the vote, this time by having the affirmative rise, and then when they are seated having the negative rise. While any member has the right to insist upon a rising vote, or a division, where there is any question as to the vote being a true expression of the will of the assembly, the chair should not permit this privilege to be abused to the annoyance of the assembly, by members constantly demanding a division where there is a full vote and no question as to which side is in the majority. It requires a majority vote to order the vote to be counted, or to be taken by yeas and nays (roll call) or by ballot. These motions are incidental to the question that is pending or has just been pending, and cannot be debated. When different methods are suggested they are usually treated not as amendments, but like filling blanks, the vote being taken first on the one taking the most time. In practice the method of taking a vote is generally agreed upon without the formality of a vote.

    When the vote is taken by ballot during a meeting of the assembly, as soon as the chair thinks all have voted who wish to, he inquires if all have voted, and if there is no response he declares the polls closed, and the tellers proceed to count the vote. If a formal motion is made to close the polls it should not be recognized until all have presumably voted, and then it requires a two-thirds vote like motions to close debate or nominations. If members enter afterwards and it is desired to reopen the polls it can be done by a majority vote. None of these motions are debatable.

    Just a note, it does not appear that their side has enough people to make a quorum to reopen the convention (you have to know exactly how many people were there voting (not visitors), so they shouldn’t have enough to restart the convention without you, but if they do it will be whoever restarts it first. If you do, be sure to send them notice by certified mail that you are re-starting the convention, give the reasons, you can even advertise it in the local paper, this way it looks better for you when you submit it to the credentials committee.”

  18. Bev Harris says:

    This is attracting attention from more than just Ron Paul supporters. It is an active discussion topic at Black Box Voting and also at Occupy Rigged Elections. Note that the reason the tampering of this delegate selection vote is so obvious is that the process was in public. When votes are counted inside computers, which can only do what they are programmed to do, and which are programmed by just one or two persons statewide, we should expect that those counts will be tampered with as well.

  19. GA4RP says:

    This must be a policy in Georgia. Same thing happened in Gwinnett County and reports are that it happened elsewhere in the state.. The Republican Party is corrupt and their blind followers remind us how dictatorships succeed. If they had welcomed the RP supporters in 2008, we would have brought energy, excitement, and enthusiasm to the GOP. We did not seek a fight; we sought inclusion. You, the GOP, by clinging to your tenuous hold on power, have spit in the eye of your future. You will either welcome this new blood or go the way of the dinosaurs.

    • tex2 says:

      We do welcome you, but you want to take EVERYTHING over. Energy, excitement, and enthusiasm misdirected is called stupidity. LOL

      • Freedom says:

        One thing your simple pathetic mind is missing is we know we are right, we know how to restore or country, we know who has hijacked our government and we know how to get it back. It might not be through Ron Paul but he has blazed the trail, starting brush fires in the minds of M E N. More of us will continue to wake up cause pathetic little scum like you cannot put these fires out. It is what made our country great and we are not going to stop after Ron Paul. It might takes some longer than others but they will wake up. since you have no clue what real patriotism is and no clue what a republic is or what a republican i or what fiat money is or anything real for that matter you don’t how stupid you really look but you will look back and see just how stupid you are and realize Ron Paul was right all along and had we listen to him we could have avoided the debt the collapse of our dollar the wars based on lies and 9/11. Lies, fear mongering and war propaganda does exist and you are helping to destroy us for being such a naive idiot. Get out of the way you are a waste and you are not a man. Or a patriot. Thomas Jefferson would piss on you.

      • tex2 says:

        One thing RP’s and his followers simple pathetic minds know is missing is you are right, you don’t know jack about fixing the problems. It definitely won’t be through Ron Paul, and when he goes, so goes your “movement.” Your know it all attitude and claim of exclusively knowing the correct solutions will keep your movement small, just like your minds. Get out of the way you are a waste and you are not a man. Or a patriot. Let me piss on you. LOL

  20. Lui says:

    Feel free to message Sue Everhartt if you would like!

    severhart@gagop.org
    🙂

  21. Blake Smith says:

    The surprising thing is that anyboy is surprised! The GOP is a crime syndicate, not a democratic political enterprise. The vote fraud in the primaries/caucuses has cheated Paul out of the contest in that syndicate. Crying will not cure the problem, A law suit will take years to pursue. The only solution is to convince Dr. Paul to run third party and deprive the GOP of any chance of victory in November. Why would anybody think the republiCON crime family will run the country any better than the demoCRAP crime family. Criminals are criminals no matter their stripe. Better to collect evidence of fraud across the country so it can be raised, much to the repuliCONs disadvantage, when they cry sore looser when Paul runs third party. Instead of spending money on trying to win states and collect delegates – something that won’t be allowed – spend it on half hour infomercials to inform the voting public that there IS an alternative to the criminals everyone is sick of and what Dr. Paul’s positions are on all the issues. Letting the highly paid for talking heads on tv speak for the Paul campaign is rediculous!!!!!

    Now we have what we have always had in the US. Two criminal enterprises which claim to be different by representing extreme right or extreme left positions on insignificant issues which they never intend to pursue if elected (fiscal and social conservative vs. fiscal and social liberal) while pursuing the same policies on all the important issues. Most Americans are fiscal conservatives and social liberals, but never get a chance to vote for that agenda. Instead they engage in the crime families game of divide and conquer over insignificant social issues like (A)bortion, (B)irth control and (C)rusades which always leads to more of the same old same old no matter which crime syndicate wins the election. Wise up Paul supporters!!!!!!!!!! THERE IS STILL TIME.

  22. strayaway says:

    Let Tex have a chance to explain what Santorum, Romney, or Gingrich will do to balance the budget, reduce the size of government, encourage personal liberty, reduce foreign aid, reduce costly foreign interventionism and otherwise promote the traditional constitutional agenda of the Republican Party. Tex has had to be so contrary because you haven’t given him the chance to say anything except negative stuff about Ron Paul and his supporters. Your turn Tex2, make your pitch. Show us what you’ve got.

    • tex2 says:

      Gingrich is the only candidate who has actually led the effort to balance the budget – by working with a democrat president who stated it wasn’t possible. Ron Paul was probably sulking in the corner.

      Rick Santorum authored and led the effort to revamp the welfare program – by working with a democrat president who first refused to sign it. Ron Paul was probably sulking in the corner.

      Mitt Romney was an actual governor who led numerous tax cuts – by working with a democrat state legislature who didn’t want to cut taxes, because it is against their DNA. Ron Paul was probably sulking in the corner.

      Do you see the pattern? Three strikes, Ron Paul struck out by not even swinging the bat! LOL

      This is the difference between the candidates – 3 of them actually accomplished something significant, while Ron Paul sulks in the corner. Ron Paul has been in Congress for DECADES and didn’t author a SINGLE bill that was significant.

      Even IF Ron Paul was right – and he isn’t – he doesn’t have a clue how to lead, never mind his positions are so drastic he wouldn’t be able to get them through Congress and he would be a lame duck on DAY ONE. Talk about a QUACK! LOL

      • Freedom says:

        You realize your congress has under a 9% approval rating and over a 92% re-election rating? What your simple mind can’t understand is if we keep electing the corruption like Mutt, frothy and Grinch we will never get our country back. But if we get smart for once and elect Ron Paul, he will expose the corruption and have people truly involved in politics to help clean out the corruption so then he will be able to get things done. But not with idiots like you who want to drag the corruption back in. You are a pathetic little man who has no sense. Liberty brings people together, once fully exposed your criminal politicians wont last.

      • tex2 says:

        Yes, I realize that. And none of the Republican presidential candidates are running for Congress. LOL

        I am in favor of term limits for Congress – 12 years maximum. The answer is NOT RP. He is meaningless.

  23. Cleaner44 says:

    Here is a post from RonPaulForums.com that give us a call to action:
    Hello everyone, I’m from Athens for Ron Paul, and don’t ya’ll worry…. we’re fighting this.

    Because the incredibly corrupt meeting was illegally closed and the delegate slate illegally voted on, according to Robert’s Rule of Order, we had the right to reconvene the meeting and throw out their delegate slate. We did. We voted on and passed our own delegate slate, legally. Everything was done totally by the books. The paperwork has been submitted.
    So, now, the state GOP has two slates of delegates on their hands from Athens-Clarke county. They have to pick one.

    What we need:
    Help us put pressure on our state and local GOP! We need to change the conversation. Instead of yelling at the state GOP about how pissed and screwed over we are, demand that they choose our delegate slate!
    Tell them that the slate passed at the reconvened meeting of Athens-Clarke county which was held on March 11, 2012, is the only legal slate from that county and therefore should be the only slate that qualifies to have its delegates and alternates proceed to the District and State conventions.

    Contact Info, priority from the highest to lowest:

    Georgia Republican Party Headquarters
    3110 Maple Drive
    Suite 150
    Atlanta, GA 30305
    Phone: (404) 257-5559
    Fax: (404) 257-0779

    Sue Everhart’s Email: severhart(at)gagop(dot)org

    Georgia GOP: info(at)gagop(dot)org

    Local Officials:
    Chairman: Matt Brewster
    chairman(at)athensgop(dot)com

    Vice Chair: Karen Schwind
    kssch2(at)yahoo(dot)com

    2nd Vice Chair: Tim Wright
    timwright33(at)hotmail(dot)com

    Treasurer: Michelle Burnum
    mrbchim(at)aol(dot)com

    Secretary: Chelsea Magee
    secretary(at)athensgop(dot)com

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?367345-Call-to-Action-from-Athens-GA!

    We need this acted on from people in GA especially!

  24. @Tex2 are you paid by the hour attaching yourself to every comment in here?

    • Ry says:

      Probably is. His strawman, wikipedia arguments are lack luster at best.

      If he could actually come up with some coherent arguments against Paul, I’d love to hear it. Mostly, the disagreement comes from 1. Lack of education in regards to economic matters and the role the federal government. I.e, reading the constitution. 2. They understand the position, but are so fixated on their point of keynesian economics, warmongering around the world ( which is a proven fact of causing 9/11 cited by our own CIA ) and religious zealoting on social policies that they can’t fit any room for anything else.

      Starting from the middle and looking at both sides is how you come to intellectual progress. It’s not possible for trolls or establishment folks who spend hours replying to everyone’s post with non-sense.

      • tex2 says:

        I’m paid by the laughs, as I’ve already stated. I’ve put plenty of facts on this blog, NONE of which have been addressed, let alone challenged, in any meaningful way. LOL

        1. RP and his “followers” don’t have a CLUE about economic matters.

        2. Most Republicans have a problem with RP BECAUSE they understand his positions, are NOT warmongerers, and are NOT religiously zealot.

        Starting with FACTS is how you come to intellectual progress, and RP and his “followers” haven’t even entered the starting gate! LOL

        It’s not possible for ignorant and naive RP “followers” to post anything except nonsense. LOL

    • tex2 says:

      Is that you, fake Danny? LOL

      No, I get paid by the laugh, and I’m VERY wealthy!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

  25. hwt123 says:

    This is for tex2…Sir , i have read your empty post and i fail to see what your grips are with Ron Paul…
    Ron Paul is the only candidate to talk about the secret bankers at the Federal Reserve..The Fed was passed the day before Christmas 1913 and they passed the income tax to make SLAVES of the working class…these secret bankers caused the stock crash of 1907,WW1 , 1929 depression, WW2 , Korean war , and the Vietnam war broke the dollar in 1971 when we went off the gold standard…These secret bankers are the cancer this nation has had since 1913.You need to thank Ron Paul for his courage because the bankers that opposed the Fed back then all drowned on the Titanic…here allow me to educate you.

    • tex2 says:

      I think you meant “gripes” but your Freudian slip has opened the door for me to say for you to get a GRIP! Ron Paul’s foreign policies are dangerous to our survival and he has demonstrated ZERO leadership in his over 2 decades in Congress – therefore he is totally unable to lead as president, which means even if he is right, and I don’t think he is, he will be unable to lead the nation in the direction he wants to go. PERIOD….”Sir.” LOL

  26. tex2 says:

    For all the youngsters supporting RP, you would think they would get some social media cred: http://news.yahoo.com/sorry-facebook-twitter-users-ignoring-ron-paul-too-221310524.html LOL

  27. Surfisher says:

    Vote YES :

    BAN *tex2* from this site IMMEDIATELY — Never allow IT to post here again! ALSO, DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY OF ITS TROLLING !

    Dear, Doug — this is your HOME page, and all of us posting here are your guests. Don’t know about your tolerance level, but mine ends when an unwelcome guest tries to set my home on fire, in order to chase out all the welcomed people I’ve invited!

    No normal exchange can be held here — since the #2 quickly fills in all REPLY slots….so no-one else can respond sequentially to what was stated before. This is its main goal (secondary is its spittings of hatred to all that’s good)!

    • tex2 says:

      Crucify him…..crucify him….. LOL

      The Passion of the Christ is a good movie, but I don’t know if I want to watch it THAT many times in a row, so let’s take a break from this repetitious “program” and allow other readers to comment on the below serious and real issues that result in baggage for Ron Paul. Tell me what you think, let’s have open and honest discourse, and since I’m a First Amendment kind of guy, even the “list” above is welcome to chime in:

      Why Ron Paul would NOT be a good president:
      1. He is old, mousey, whiny, grumpy, skinny, etc. Do not underestimate the importance of these factors, as a very large number of voters are not familiar with the issues, and vote for vanity. Sad but true. It does no good to have good ideas when you don’t have the presidential image, and Ron has neither.
      2. He has been in Congress for 2 decades and doesn’t have a single bill to his name. We elected someone president with zero accomplishments in 2008, why would we want to do that again? How can you expect him to be able to lead the country when he can’t lead a single bill to fruition after 20 years?
      3. He even voted against his own bill to audit the Federal Reserve, because he didn’t get every single detail he wanted. He is so stubbornly rigid he simply takes his toys and goes home if he doesn’t get every little detail he wants.
      4. Many of his domestic policies are admirable, but how does he expect to implement them when he will have to work with Congress to get many of them turned into a reality? Will he simply hold his breath until Congress lets him get his way, because he has zero track record of using any other tactic to be successful?
      5. Most of his foreign policies are dangerous. If we pull out of foreign countries, the vacuum WILL be filled by Russia, China, etc. Once you lose your toehold, it is VERY difficult to expand military operations if the need arises. Think about how hard it would have been for the U.S. to fight Hitler if England had fallen. For example, if China decides they don’t want to allow free flow of oil, we would have no recourse, as it takes years, if not decades, to develop independent energy sources. He is simply naive to the point of being a traitor to his own country. Also, we need forward positioned military presence to fight the global war on terror. It isn’t being fought only in Iraq and Afghanistan, there are operations literally around the world preventing future 9/11 type attacks that simply cannot be fought by guarding our own borders, 9/11 should have taught us that. We must therefore disrupt the terrorist cells wherever they are, so they cannot organize, plan, recruit, train, equip, and attack again. To not do this would be suicidal.
      For the above and other reasons, Ron gets the pot smoking and “freedom at any cost” crowd, and that’s all he will ever get…LOL

  28. Surfisher says:

    Vote YES :

    BAN *tex2* from this site IMMEDIATELY — Never allow IT to post here again! ALSO, DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY OF ITS TROLLING !

    Dear, Doug — this is your HOME page, and all of us posting here are your guests. Don’t know about your tolerance level, but mine ends when an unwelcome guest tries to set my home on fire, in order to chase out all the welcomed people I’ve invited!

    No normal exchange can be held here — since the #2 quickly fills in all REPLY slots….so no-one else can respond sequentially to what was stated before. This is its main goal (secondary is its spittings of hatred to all that’s good)!

    • tex2 says:

      Crucify him…..crucify him….. LOL

      The Passion of the Christ is a good movie, but I don’t know if I want to watch it THAT many times in a row, so let’s take a break from this repetitious “program” and allow other readers to comment on the below serious and real issues that result in baggage for Ron Paul. Tell me what you think, let’s have open and honest discourse, and since I’m a First Amendment kind of guy, even the “list” above is welcome to chime in:

      Why Ron Paul could be and/or would NOT be a good president:
      1. He is old, mousey, whiny, grumpy, skinny, etc. Do not underestimate the importance of these factors, as a very large number of voters are not familiar with the issues, and vote for vanity. Sad but true. It does no good to have good ideas when you don’t have the presidential image, and Ron has neither.
      2. He has been in Congress for 2 decades and doesn’t have a single bill to his name. We elected someone president with zero accomplishments in 2008, why would we want to do that again? How can you expect him to be able to lead the country when he can’t lead a single bill to fruition after 20 years?
      3. He even voted against his own bill to audit the Federal Reserve, because he didn’t get every single detail he wanted. He is so stubbornly rigid he simply takes his toys and goes home if he doesn’t get every little detail he wants.
      4. Many of his domestic policies are admirable, but how does he expect to implement them when he will have to work with Congress to get many of them turned into a reality? Will he simply hold his breath until Congress lets him get his way, because he has zero track record of using any other tactic to be successful?
      5. Most of his foreign policies are dangerous. If we pull out of foreign countries, the vacuum WILL be filled by Russia, China, etc. Once you lose your toehold, it is VERY difficult to expand military operations if the need arises. Think about how hard it would have been for the U.S. to fight Hitler if England had fallen. For example, if China decides they don’t want to allow free flow of oil, we would have no recourse, as it takes years, if not decades, to develop independent energy sources. He is simply naive to the point of being a traitor to his own country. Also, we need forward positioned military presence to fight the global war on terror. It isn’t being fought only in Iraq and Afghanistan, there are operations literally around the world preventing future 9/11 type attacks that simply cannot be fought by guarding our own borders, 9/11 should have taught us that. We must therefore disrupt the terrorist cells wherever they are, so they cannot organize, plan, recruit, train, equip, and attack again. To not do this would be suicidal.
      For the above and other reasons, Ron gets the pot smoking and “freedom at any cost” crowd, and that’s all he will ever get…LOL!!!

  29. RMHill says:

    “Why Ron Paul could be and/or would NOT be a good president:”

    Not sure if this is a typing error, but the statement seems rather odd. Are these 5 points reasons why Ron Paul “could be” a good president, or “would NOT be a good president”? Obviously, it is the latter in your opinion. Perhaps the first half was supposed to say something like “could not be elected”.

    1. Your first point has nothing to do with whether he would be a good president.. as you say yourself, these are superficial. But they are also matters of opinion. It seems the crowds of young people going to his rallies have no issue with his image, physical or personality wise. Furthermore, he has a great deal of courage, which hardly qualifies him as mousy.

    2. To site this as a reason for not supporting Paul for president is not very convincing. Tell me the good things Congress has done in the previous two decades. Please, by all means. This is like pointing to the one sane, honest guy in a room full of lunatics and liars and complaining that he hasn’t participated in their insanity. Or are you complaining that he hasn’t convinced a room full of liars and lunatics to stop acting like liars and lunatics.

    3. As for his no vote on the Audit Bill, this is not his ‘purest’ nature in that no vote, but his practical nature. The bill was gutted of any real value once the house and senate leadership were done with it. The audit was not to be a complete audit, nor was the auditor completely independent of the Fed. So your point #3 is also rather weak.

    4. This is perhaps the most amusing of the five. You act as if presidents ought to be about implementing new programs via negotiations with the legislature. LOL! Paul’s goal is to dismantle governmental power, not construct it. And as president he would have the power to decentralize much of what Washington DC has been about in the last 70 plus years. As the chief executive at the federal level, he can essentially end the drug war by refusing federal prosecutions of non-violent drug crimes and also pardon those previously convicted of such crimes. This is an area where the federal government has no business being. As commander and chief, he can bring the troops home. As president he can Veto bills and budgets. He can essentially bring DC to standstill in such areas… unless Congress is able to muster overturning veto after veto (not likely in present day politics). I know Tex, the government shutting down would be a big worry for a RINO like you. But for me, it would be a dream come true.

    5. This is simply a load of horse manure. It assumes that China is just itching to take our place at governing places like Iraq and Afghanistan. This last comment proves just how clueless you are. Tex says, “Oh save me, Mr. Big Bwave Federal Government from all da bad guys out der. I scared.”

    • Surfisher says:

      RMHill —

      Superb post!

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    • tex2 says:

      “Why Ron Paul could be and/or would NOT be a good president:”

      Not sure if this is a typing error, but the statement seems rather odd. Are these 5 points reasons why Ron Paul “could be” a good president, or “would NOT be a good president”? Obviously, it is the latter in your opinion. Perhaps the first half was supposed to say something like “could not be elected”. ===> Correct. It is a typo. LOL

      1. Your first point has nothing to do with whether he would be a good president.. as you say yourself, these are superficial. But they are also matters of opinion. It seems the crowds of young people going to his rallies have no issue with his image, physical or personality wise. Furthermore, he has a great deal of courage, which hardly qualifies him as mousy. ===> You’re right, the first item is why he is unelectable from an image standpoint. The “crowds” of young people are a tiny minority compared to the total voting population. LOL His appearance is mousy, and his “courage” consists of promoting nutty and dangerous ideas. LOL

      2. To site this as a reason for not supporting Paul for president is not very convincing. Tell me the good things Congress has done in the previous two decades. Please, by all means. This is like pointing to the one sane, honest guy in a room full of lunatics and liars and complaining that he hasn’t participated in their insanity. Or are you complaining that he hasn’t convinced a room full of liars and lunatics to stop acting like liars and lunatics. ===> Yes it is, and the word is “cite,” not “site.” LOL Congress has lowered taxes, balanced the budget, kept us from being attacked in a manner similar to 9/11, as a few examples. In recent years, the budget has gotten back out of whack. LOL I don’t believe every single other Congressperson is a liar and lunatic. LOL The way the Constitution was designed requires people to work together, not sit in a corner with your arms, legs, and eyes crossed unless/until you get 100% of what you want. LOL

      3. As for his no vote on the Audit Bill, this is not his ‘purest’ nature in that no vote, but his practical nature. The bill was gutted of any real value once the house and senate leadership were done with it. The audit was not to be a complete audit, nor was the auditor completely independent of the Fed. So your point #3 is also rather weak. ===> RIP blew it for the past 20 years, when he COULD have developed a good reputation, but he chose to take the position of 100% my way or no way. LOL As noted above, this is NOT how the Constitution works, as it relies on people working together, not acting like spoiled 3 year olds. LOL

      4. This is perhaps the most amusing of the five. You act as if presidents ought to be about implementing new programs via negotiations with the legislature. LOL! ===> That’s because you’re being stupid. Presidents SHOULD work with Congress, and have done so extensively in the past. LOL

      Paul’s goal is to dismantle governmental power, not construct it. And as president he would have the power to decentralize much of what Washington DC has been about in the last 70 plus years. As the chief executive at the federal level, he can essentially end the drug war by refusing federal prosecutions of non-violent drug crimes and also pardon those previously convicted of such crimes. ===> RIP would be treading on dangerous ground by NOT enforcing the laws of the land, the executive branch’s primary responsibility.

      This is an area where the federal government has no business being. ===> RIP can’t pick and choose which laws to enforce or not enforce at his whim. LOL

      As commander and chief, he can bring the troops home. ===> This is the scariest of what he could do, and is also the primary reason why he will NEVER be president, in my humble opinion. LOL

      As president he can Veto bills and budgets. He can essentially bring DC to standstill in such areas… unless Congress is able to muster overturning veto after veto (not likely in present day politics). I know Tex, the government shutting down would be a big worry for a RINO like you. But for me, it would be a dream come true. ===> There are many in Congress who want to reduce the size of government, but just going around hacking away WOULD result in veto after veto being overturned. Congress doesn’t like to be pushed around. LOL

      5. This is simply a load of horse manure. It assumes that China is just itching to take our place at governing places like Iraq and Afghanistan. ===> No it doesn’t, but they would like the oil all to themselves. Besides, we’re not governing these countries, we’re enabling them to largely take care of themselves. You either didn’t learn or forgot a LOT of history. LOL

      This last comment proves just how clueless you are. Tex says, “Oh save me, Mr. Big Bwave Federal Government from all da bad guys out der. I scared.” ===> You are stupid and clueless, quite a combination. The one place where the Constitution instructs the Federal government to manage thing is the military, and there ARE a lot of bad guys out there. If you bothered to read your history books, you would know that already. Ignorance is bliss, you must be ecstatic! LOL

      • RMHill says:

        “You’re right, the first item is why he is unelectable from an image standpoint. The “crowds” of young people are a tiny minority compared to the total voting population. LOL His appearance is mousy, and his “courage” consists of promoting nutty and dangerous ideas. LOL”

        Is that unelectable, not worth electing or both? According to you it is both. So why waste your time here? Why not go out and battle all those big scary bad guys rather than some small looney minority that will never get their way. If really believed what you write, then you would be little better than us, wasting your time on those that are wasting theirs. I’m reminded of a line from Shakespeare: “The Lady Doth Protest too Much.”

        Funny thing about the young. They tend to have more years in front of them than behind. Your tired generation is dying off… and sometimes political changes come by way of attrition. You will not be missed.

        “Congress has lowered taxes, balanced the budget, kept us from being attacked in a manner similar to 9/11, as a few examples. In recent years, the budget has gotten back out of whack. LOL I don’t believe every single other Congressperson is a liar and lunatic. LOL The way the Constitution was designed requires people to work together, not sit in a corner with your arms, legs, and eyes crossed unless/until you get 100% of what you want. LOL”

        Lowering taxes hardly qualifies as a major accomplishment while the same congress allows unprecedented debt. The budget hasn’t been balanced in decades, despite the nonsense you spout. Besides, the Constitution does not give the Federal Government the power to levy a direct tax upon the people like that of the income tax. In addition, I think you will find that Ron Paul votes consistently in favor of both tax and spending cuts. So what was that you were saying earlier about him not working with others? LOL!
        As for the Constitution, it was designed to safeguard against abuses by way of divided power and overlapping jurisdictions, That hardly qualifies as everyone working together. They are supposed to keep an eye on one another, not work together towards goals that are themselves unconstitutional.. Get it?

        “RIP blew it for the past 20 years, when he COULD have developed a good reputation, but he chose to take the position of 100% my way or no way. LOL As noted above, this is NOT how the Constitution works, as it relies on people working together, not acting like spoiled 3 year olds. LOL”

        As noted above, you are clueless about the intent of the founders in this regard. Certainly they envisioned people and branches working together… but only when it was within the confines of the Constitution itself. Most of what the Federal Government does is unconstitutional. Why would you want cooperation among law breakers with the power to coerce? You are an odd duck.

        “RIP can’t pick and choose which laws to enforce or not enforce at his whim. LOL”

        Amazing how you claim I am historically ignorant when you make a claim like this one! Of course he can pick and choose. Where have you been for the last 50 years? Presidents and law enforcement are quite accustom to picking and choosing in this manner. In addition, the President is morally obligated to obey the Constitution, regardless of the lower laws passed by Congress. Get it??

        “Congress doesn’t like to be pushed around.”

        Ha! Congress has been relinquishing its responsibilities to the executive branch for years now. You truly are a brainless turd.

      • RMHill says:

        Ran out of time to respond… so here is my last reply to Tax head..

        “The one place where the Constitution instructs the Federal government to manage thing is the military, and there ARE a lot of bad guys out there. If you bothered to read your history books, you would know that already. Ignorance is bliss, you must be ecstatic! LOL”

        Do you have any idea how contradictory you sound? You praise a Congress that has been violating the constitution daily, you talk about the Constitution being designed so as to have everyone work together regardless of the constitutionality of what they are working towards, then turn clean around and preach about the rightful powers it bestows. What a riot.

        Yes tex, the constitution does give the Federal Government the power to “Declare War” and thus provide for the “Common Defense”. But these are not powers that are without limit or restrictions. They are powers clearly delineated and divided. As for the ‘bad guys’ in the world, of course there is evil people in the world. No one is disputing that (talking with you is like talking to a 4 year old). But simply having bad people out there does not mean they are a threat to our liberty. Furthermore, nothing in the Constitution gives the Federal Government the power to go to war without a declaration based solely on there being a monster overseas that makes tex wet his bed.

        When such evil is a threat to American liberty, Congress has the power and the obligation to declare war – right? You do remember that Constitution you were just preaching about, don’t ya?

  30. Surfisher says:

    Vote to ban the #2 that pollutes this forum with its trolling.

    So far the vote to BAN it — ‘tex2′ — is:

    1) Surfisher
    2) Sharon Kuhn
    3) annebeck58
    4) christopher Deligate of Missouri
    5) donjusko
    6) sharksauce24
    7) sophiah8
    8) rmcnnlly
    9) BanTex2Al
    10) Wendy Jones
    11) Evan Godolphin
    12) Remmic Lewis
    13) Shane Mayfield
    14) jeffrey bohl

    • tex2 says:

      Crucify him…..crucify him….. LOL

      The Passion of the Christ is a good movie, but I don’t know if I want to watch it THAT many times in a row, so let’s take a break from this repetitious “program” and allow other readers to comment on the below serious and real issues that result in baggage for Ron Paul. Tell me what you think, let’s have open and honest discourse, and since I’m a First Amendment kind of guy, even the “list” above is welcome to chime in:

      Why Ron Paul will not be elected and/or would NOT be a good president:
      1. He is old, mousey, whiny, grumpy, skinny, etc. Do not underestimate the importance of these factors, as a very large number of voters are not familiar with the issues, and vote for vanity. Sad but true. It does no good to have good ideas when you don’t have the presidential image, and Ron has neither.
      2. He has been in Congress for 2 decades and doesn’t have a single bill to his name. We elected someone president with zero accomplishments in 2008, why would we want to do that again? How can you expect him to be able to lead the country when he can’t lead a single bill to fruition after 20 years?
      3. He even voted against his own bill to audit the Federal Reserve, because he didn’t get every single detail he wanted. He is so stubbornly rigid he simply takes his toys and goes home if he doesn’t get every little detail he wants.
      4. Many of his domestic policies are admirable, but how does he expect to implement them when he will have to work with Congress to get many of them turned into a reality? Will he simply hold his breath until Congress lets him get his way, because he has zero track record of using any other tactic to be successful?
      5. Most of his foreign policies are dangerous. If we pull out of foreign countries, the vacuum WILL be filled by Russia, China, etc. Once you lose your toehold, it is VERY difficult to expand military operations if the need arises. Think about how hard it would have been for the U.S. to fight Hitler if England had fallen. For example, if China decides they don’t want to allow free flow of oil, we would have no recourse, as it takes years, if not decades, to develop independent energy sources. He is simply naive to the point of being a traitor to his own country. Also, we need forward positioned military presence to fight the global war on terror. It isn’t being fought only in Iraq and Afghanistan, there are operations literally around the world preventing future 9/11 type attacks that simply cannot be fought by guarding our own borders, 9/11 should have taught us that. We must therefore disrupt the terrorist cells wherever they are, so they cannot organize, plan, recruit, train, equip, and attack again. To not do this would be suicidal.
      For the above and other reasons, Ron gets the pot smoking and “freedom at any cost” crowd, and that’s all he will ever get…LOL!!!

      • freedom says:

        It’s obvious 9/11 didn’t teach you anything. It taught me that we have a nation full of brainwashed sheep like you who follow whatever you are told. Present to me the evidence you have on 9/11 besides what you were told. Sheep boy.

    • Surfisher says:

      Here is another good one!

      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkTreAmnmZ0)

      send it!

      also:
      The #2 is a paid shill to troll and disrupt this forum with its spewing of hatred. So real Americans can’t converse here without IT hijacking all threads. That’s why this subhuman needs to be banned. One NEVER responds to IT — its existence is to be ignored.

    • Surfisher says:

      Send this video!

      Romney=Twoface

      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9njHHyRI7g&feature=player_embedded)

      also:
      The #2 is a paid shill to troll and disrupt this forum with its spewing of hatred. So real Americans can’t converse here without IT hijacking all threads. That’s why this subhuman needs to be banned. One NEVER responds to IT — its existence is to be ignored.

    • Surfisher says:

      To all Americans:

      Spread this video of the only American Patriot — Ron Paul — running in this race!

      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hgsg7a-Ok8Q#)

      also:
      The #2 is a paid shill to troll and disrupt this forum with its spewing of hatred. So real Americans can’t converse here without IT hijacking all threads. That’s why this subhuman needs to be banned. One NEVER responds to IT — its existence is to be ignored.

  31. Surfisher says:

    Here is another good one!

    (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkTreAmnmZ0)

    send it!

    also:
    The #2 is a paid shill to troll and disrupt this forum with its spewing of hatred. So real Americans can’t converse here without IT hijacking all threads. That’s why this subhuman needs to be banned. One NEVER responds to IT — its existence is to be ignored.

  32. Surfisher says:

    “Former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson could pull as much as 6% of the vote in a hypothetical three-way match-up with Mitt Romney and President Obama. Johnson began the 2012 race running for the Republican nomination but has wound up carrying the libertarian banner and could gain ballot access in several states.”

    If the above transpires, it is a certainty that Mitt will not defeat BO (with his flip-flopping, he couldn’t defeat him anyway, now this would assure it).

    So he needs to withdraw now in favor of Ron Paul!
    ————————————————————————-

    Ron Paul WILL become President in 2012 — IF, Romney becomes a Patriot, and forgoes his ego, for the Good of the People!

    Mitt Romney could become one of the greatest Statesmen in US History! He’d be the Savior of our Nation — the one that generations to come would tell their children: “Look at this statue, this is Mitt Romney, he saved America”!

    Or, he can reduce himself to just a tiny footnote…what is amazing is that his fate rests in his own hands (a very rare occurrence throughout the history of the world)!

    All Romney has to do, is to take advantage of this rarest of historical moments, and make a SINGLE DECISION!!!

    Withdraw his candidacy IN FAVOR of Ron Paul, with the following grandiose and heart-wrenching patriotic speech (to save his political skin):

    “I, Mitt Romney, will sacrifice my political goals for the Good of the People. Now I understand that only Ron Paul that can save our Nation. I agree with all he stands for, therefore, I have deemed that our Nation’s salvation can only be accomplished when Ron Paul is elected as President of the United States of America. Without regret, but with joy, I do the most honorable and patriotic deed I can — I withdraw myself from this election, and give my full support to Ron Paul!”

    One honest person is needed to bring these logical conclusions to Romney’s PERSONAL ATTENTION (not the myopic sycophants surrounding him and stroking his ego by chanting wishful thinking as ‘fact’: “You gonna win Boss, you gonna win Boss….).

    Regardless how egotistical, arrogant and narcissistic Romney may be, some semblance of reasoning of what’s best for him, should still remain in his skull. The instinct for self preservation dictates that even the smallest of minds will chose the path that leads to safety, not the one leading to disaster.

    An honest realist needs to talk to Romney one-on-one — and explain the following to him, so Mitt can comprehend it:

    1) If you don’t win the nomination, than your political career is over (you’ll become just a tiny footnote in US History as a failure).

    2) If you win the nomination, and don’t defeat Obama — which is the most probable outcome (you’ll become just a tiny footnote in US History as an even LARGER failure).

    Therefore, Dear Mitt, whichever gamble you take from the above, may lead to total disaster for your political career (and probably will)!

    However, here is an action you can take, Dear Mitt, that guarantees you’ll become immortalized in the annals of US History — becoming the 21st Century Savior of America (surely this carrot of success will entice Romney’s egotism to go for it — over the probable political beatings he’d receive otherwise)!

    All one needs to do, to assure Mitt’s Historical Greatness of Sacrifice for the Good of the Nation, is to present the above to Romney’s eyes alone! I urge all able to do so, to place this document in front of him!

    Send this to Mitt Romney — as an Open Letter, e-mails, etc. — the more you send, the greater the chance he’ll get to read it!

  33. Surfisher says:

    *Mitt Romney, American Parasite*

    (Mitt Grosny — Romney The Terrible (my prefered title))

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31153.htm

    It explains how Bain Capital worked. They would buy SUCCESSFUL companies, with little down, borrowed huge amounts, saddling them with crushing debt, refused to continue equipment purchases or maintenance. Then they would pay themselves huge “management” fees.
    —————————————————–

    Some notable excerpts:

    “Romney is not a vulture capitalist, as Rick Perry says, since vultures eat dead carcasses,” notes Josh Kosman, who has written about the private equity business for 15 years. He’s “more of a parasitic capitalist, since he destroys profitable businesses.” (The host must be healthy enough to be force-fed all that debt, then slowly bled to death…until the parasites drain all the wealth for themselves).

    “When Bain was about to buy a company, its partners would hold a meeting. “He said that about half the time [they] would talk about cutting workers,” Kosman says. “They would never talk about adding workers. He said that job growth was never part of the plan.” That claim was buttressed by the Associated Press, which studied 45 companies bought by Bain during Romney’s first decade. It found that 4,000 workers lost their jobs. The real figure is likely thousands higher, since the analysis didn’t account for bankruptcies and factory and store closings.

    “The Armco plant closing involved more than the torching of 750 jobs, Morrow says. Contractors and suppliers collapsed. Workers’ children and widows lost health care and pension benefits. And while Bain received millions in tax breaks—paid for by the very people left holding the bag—Romney walked away millions richer.”
    —————————————————-

    A must read (long) article recommended to all!

    Share it!

  34. Surfisher says:

    Superb parody of a “debate” btw Rmoney and BO — SHARE IT!

    (Note the exquisite sardonic touch — only one person is watching the two puppets….LOL!)

    (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vWVdOTFs8M&feature=player_embedded)

    Ron Paul to WIN — or America to End 2012

  35. tex2 says:

    Nobody is watching RIP. LOL

    But keep giving ALL your money to RIP’s campaign. LOL

  36. Surfisher says:

    Prize winning photo for Ron Paul’s campaign — A Gem!

    SHARE IT !!!

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