Obama and Clinton Spar Over Religion

 

This recent exchange took place last week as the Democratic contest grew more tense.  Obama was in San Francisco, explaining to big donors why working class voters were proving harder for him to win over.

“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

– Barack Obama, April 6, 2008

“The people of faith I know don’t ‘cling’ to religion because they’re bitter. People embrace faith not because they are materially poor, but because they are spiritually rich.”

– Hillary Clinton April 11, 2008

13 Responses to Obama and Clinton Spar Over Religion

  1. heyamatt says:

    Yeah, Clinton nailed Obama on that one…

  2. eyeingtenure says:

    Notsomuch. His comments were taken out of context, and there was a perfectly correct statement made by the whole speech.

    What frustrates me is that Sen. Clinton, in response, explicitly uses the image of small-town America to parry Obama’s remarks, though such mythically idyllic small towns never existed outside The Andy Griffith Show.

  3. thekingpin68 says:

    From how this is presented, it reaffirms in my mind the image of Ms. Clinton as political opportunist. Besides, how much does either one of these Senators understand religion and how people experience it?

    Cheers.:)

    Russ

  4. raleyb says:

    I didn’t think the dems could self-implode, but they sure are trying. The GOP could win in the fall despite itself.

    It they put their ego’s aside and came together as Cuomo suggested they could bury the republicans. It’s starting to look as if they will both shift way to the middle if elected. Their middle is still far left of my right, but it’s a little progress.

  5. raleyb says:

    eyeingtenure:

    His comments were taken out of the context of several paragraphs in a speech. I wouldn’t call several paragraphs out of context. I think we can clearly see he was speaking freely with a group who would hold this same thought about small town America. We’ve all let down our guard when we thought we were speaking with like minded groups. The problem is a Presidential nominee doesn’t have that luxory- right or wrong.

    Have you ever traveled to the midwest or south? Those little Andy Griffith towns still exist. Look out the window in your next plane ride to New York or Florida. I agree that Clinton is using the image to parry Obama, but the towns do exist all over the place. I would bet that the people acted in similar fashions to Barney, Andy, Floyd and Gomer in the era the show was filmed.

    I agree with thekingpin: the Clintons are the kings of opportunism.

  6. davidblack2 says:

    Barry Obama, aka Martin Luther Kennedy, is no slouch in the political opportunism arena, either. We have in BO a bi-racial politician who years ago chose to align with Chicago’s liberal Democrat machine and the Afro-centric radicals needed to establish his street cred among his poor and disenfranchised constituency. Note that BO has made only one overt citation of his white roots by mentioning the grandmother who was afraid of minorities. I won’t hold my breath waiting for BO to condemn black males who abandon their families by citing his own history.

  7. davidblack2 says:

    CORRECTION: In Barry O’s infamous “A More Perfect Union,” he does mention in passing his maternal grandfather’s WW2 service as well as the fearful maternal grandmother’s wartime factory employment.

  8. vaugh says:

    This comment is related to Senator Grassley’s investigation of Kenneth Copeland and five other ministers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. As a former Southern Baptist missionary, I find that this investigation of six Pentacostal minisitries is clearly discrimination and unwarranted. John 10:10 records that Jesus came that we might have abundant life. Jesus never preached a poverty mentality. The Bible is full of the prosperity message from beginning to end. It appears that Senator Grassley has not read all of the Bible!

  9. davidblack2 says:

    It’s not incumbent upon Sen. Grassley to first consult New Testament scripture for guidance when investigating possible ethics violations among those protected by non-profit tax exemption laws.

  10. berain2 says:

    It would, however, be incumbent upon him to consult the constitution of the United States of America.

  11. davidblack2 says:

    Oh please, why is the first thing out of a libertarian’s mouth always about the Constitution? Talk about johnny one notes! This is not an issue about the Constitution, but a matter of tax laws. If you are filing as a non-profit then you have no business living like a high roller.

  12. davidblack2 says:

    My last post suggests that living as a high roller while hiding behind a tax free exemption is unlawful. It is not. Living as a rather conspicuous high roller while operating with a tax free exemption should serve as an indicator of likely fraud and deceit that merits judicial scrutiny.

  13. 2edgedsword2 says:

    Judge between your servants, repaying the guilty by bringing down on his own head what he has done. Declare the innocent not guilty and so establish his innocence. 2 Chronicles 6:23

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